The last LSC brand products test Smart Connect really blew us away. Their connected filament bulbs are really very good. We therefore wanted to test another part of their range and in particular all the connected devices that can be likened to a security system. We insist on the notion of "being able to be likened" because this does not apply to a real system with alarm, third-party surveillance and the like. But it takes something for everyone. We do not offer you one, nor two, but three tests in one !!!
Indeed, Action currently offers 3 LSC products Smart Connect can be combined with each other to set up a homemade system at a lower cost: a opening sensor, for an movement detector and smart siren ! Each element is available for € 9,95 making it the cheapest on the market. Now it is necessary to see what happens… one by one please!
Smart Door Sensor: compact but efficient
Our Smart Sensor is presented in the qualitative packaging of the brand LSC Smart Connect. There is really nothing to complain about. We find the cover with the illustration of the product, the fact that it function under Tuya, compatible Alexa and that it can also allow scenarios with the siren, light bulbs… The background will present its technical characteristics.
Unboxing allows us to discover: the body of the opening detector, additional module and set of two batteries (delicate attention, thank you). We are first of all surprised at the size of the detector. It is really compact: 8 x 3 cm for the main module and 5 x 1,3 cm for the secondary, 1,5 cm thick. In comparison, a Zemismart is 9,5 x 4 cm and 9,5 x 1,5 cm while Konyks displays dimensions a little smaller than the LSC (7,5 x 2,5 cm). It is “logoed” LSC in large and gray. Well ? Not good ? For you to see but something more discreet wouldn't be worse. That said, its small size is very appreciable because having a concrete block instead of an opening detector is quite inconvenient ...
It is made in matt white plastic of fairly good quality. No fault found on our product. Each module has fairly effective double-sided. The back cover of the main unit is removed by pressing the top button. The batteries insert without problem and the reset / pairing button is very accessible as you can see. The small hole on the front side, at the bottom, is actually a red LED for connection status.
Pairing is done with Smart Life (and not LSC app because there is no skill) On 2,4 GHz Wi-Fi, IEEE 802.11 b / g / n. Choose "Protection sensor" et "Door sensor" in the adding part of Smart Life. Pairing is done very quickly by pressing the button, let it flash quickly, select your network and presto. Change the name, do some opening and closing tests to see if it communicates well and let's go! You can then bring it up under Alexa with the Skill Smart Life (see the other tests and tutorial for more info).
During these tests, we were quite surprised at the detection distance. Count about 1 cm in horizontal spacing and easily 1,5 to 2 cm in sliding. This allows you to put the sensor in the correct position, unlike others that must be adjusted to the hair. The magnet used is therefore of good quality, but be careful, if the door is at the limit of closing, it may not tell you (hence proper placement). Look at these photos, we are still in the closure detection zone!
In use, not much to complain about: it is easily put in place, captures openings and closings quite well even if it sometimes seems to react with a little delay. You have the possibility to receive notifications on your smartphone or via Alexa if you are doing a routine. The application allows you to view the status live: open or closed, as well as the history of openings and closings. The settings allow you to enable or disable notifications.
Smart Movment Sensor: it moves ... it detects ... it's good
Our motion detector is presented in exactly the same way as the other products in the range, and in particular the opening detector. We are therefore not going to dwell too much on it. We discover: the motion detector, a support and a set of two fairly clean batteries (CR123 / A). The sensor is a washer 6 cm in diameter (evening a radius of 3 cm and a circumference of 18,84 cm and a surface of ... ok, but it will soon be back to school too) and a maximum thickness of the dome of 4 cm. It is therefore in the average market size.
Material level, it is made of the same white plastic than the others for the body and another translucent opaque plastic with golf ball patterns. We find the small LSC logo much more discreet than the cupboard placed on the opening detector. The back has a small metal plate that will allow it to hold by magnetization on the support delivered. The support is also in thick plastic and quite well designed: it has a double-sided but if you put it on a metal surface, it will also hold by the magnetization of the module. The module will not simply come and land there but insert itself there in order to hold on well.
The back cover of the detector is removed by rotating it. As for the opening detector, the batteries are inserted without problem and the reset / pairing button is very accessible as you can see. It is the module that will glow a little for pairing mode and not an LED.
We are not going to insult you again to tell you how to pair with Smart Life because there, if you have not yet understood with the first explanation, the only way is for us to come to your home ... Simply choose "voice / light sensor".
How does it work ? Where to put it? We are on a passive sensor, so with an infrared system that will just check if something in front of the sensor does not have the same thermal signature as the atmosphere. It therefore works in the dark and is given for a range of use in 0 and 55 ° C. You can therefore put it in your hallway so that you can then activate a siren thanks to a scenario or a light thanks to a routine. The possibilities are really varied.
The start of the test was not really conclusive because if it is in a zone of very frequent passage, see permanent, it will not activate regularly, see only once. Which is quite logical in principle, the goal being to activate in the event of a change of environment. In our case, we installed it at the bottom of a letterbox. As soon as an envelope is slipped into the window, it will activate and send a notification on the smartphone or on Alexa if you set up a routine like "you have a letter". It is indeed much easier to adjust than a door opening detector on a BAL slot.
The app also allows you to see the history of detections, like other sensors.
Smart Siren: will we resist his song?
The last object in the range is the one that must bring them all together, it is round, a red ring is… a mermaid! Indeed, thanks to routines and scenarios, it is up to you to set up a homemade system to twist the eardrums of invaders! But be careful, let's be clear. If we compare an alarm system worthy of the name to a Tibetan Mastiff feeding young children and fasting for 1 week, then our siren would be an obese Chihuahua suffering from cataract just putting on a bowl ... It's cute, it squeaks a bit, but that's it. You will understand why ...
The box of our siren is a little bigger than the other two but is identical in all points on the other aspects. And what's in this box? Our mermaid who comes under the shape of a round 9,5 cm in diameter (therefore 4,75 cm radius is ... Ok, ok ...) and a thickness of 7,5 cm with the plug or 4 cm when plugged). Failing not to be aesthetic, it is not necessarily unsightly. We see a red ring that will light up while she sings or during pairing mode. There are openings for sound on the front and on the sides. 3 buttons are present: one for switching on and pairing and two others for volume (110 dB max, the pain threshold being at 120 dB). It is made of good quality grayish plastic.
To make it work, it must be connected to the mains (100-240 V) via its ungrounded plug. There is no battery system or whatever. The big weakness of the product is therefore there. PTo turn it off in the event of an intrusion, you unplug it and that's it. It should therefore be plugged in in the attic, behind or under a piece of furniture so as not to make it visible or more difficult to detect. But depending on the homes and interiors, this will not be possible. Keep this in mind if you want to buy it.
Pairing is very easy. You plug in and it automatically goes into the appropriate mode (if not, press the button for a few seconds). Choose alarm under Smart-Life and let yourself be guided.
The application will allow you to see thealarm history but also, in the parameters, of choose the sound volume of the alarm, type of alarm (sound, visual or both), alarm times or turn it off. It's pretty well done and intuitive. It will also directly integrate an alarm group under Smart Life.
You can now make a scenario to activate your alarm in the event of a door opening, for example, or even motion detection. Go for that in automation of the scenario tab. It's very simple, take a look at this example. And watch it in action on our video full of suspense!
But finally, do not hesitate, go for it! There is no equivalent to this value for money at this time.
Nothing works with Alexa you mean!
Hello Steve. There has indeed recently been a beug with Tuya and Alexa making that all that is detectors (opening, movement ...) of any brand no longer go back under Alexa or appear offline. This is being resolved, but cannot give a date.
On the other hand, the sensors already in place work well with Alexa.
I wanted to say a big thank you for your article. I bought the 3 items from Action recently and no info on the net and in the user manual to 'pair' the siren and the door sensor / detector
Your article cleared me up and it works now
Thank you for your feedback, it's always nice! 🙂
Good end of weekend.
Super interesting the price of the opening sensor: I will go and buy myself one.
On the other hand, bad news concerning the motion detector with its batteries which costs almost as much as the sensor.
There, I have it. I had a little trouble configuring it because it doesn't say anywhere that you have to keep pressing the configuration button until the LED flashes FAST. Because there is also a mode where the led flashes slowly!
I had Konyks plugs so I went through their application and it works.
Indeed the delay is several seconds in the application.
I have to connect it all with Alexa now…
Hello and thank you for your tests.
I hastened to go get bulbs, ceiling light and motion detector.
I am very satisfied with the products and Alexa works perfectly with.
On the other hand, with regard to my ceiling light that I installed on a landing with a separate motion detector, I created a scenario so that the ceiling light comes on by detection at night: which works but unfortunately it remains on.
Do you know if my case is possible to turn on by detection but on the other hand that after a certain time it turns off?
Thank you in advance.
Hello,
Unfortunately, we did not purchase this product and therefore did not have the opportunity to test it.
However, it is probably possible to add a wait and then shutdown action in your scenario. In summary, the trigger is therefore your detector, which causes your light to come on, then you set a waiting time of X minutes after which you order your ceiling light to turn off.
Hoping you will succeed,
Bonne journée.
The motion detector is a priori set to "scan" once every 5 minutes approximately in order to save the batteries.
If you know any that works with AA or AAA batteries and Tuya compatible and Alexa and who does not cost an arm I am a taker 😉
I buy the door detector in order to link it to Alexa to do an action when someone comes home.
Unfortunately, how do you know when someone opens the door to re-enter or opens it to exit?
It would be necessary to combine 2 sensors (with one of movement for example) and to create a scenario for a person who enters: detection of opening THEN detection of movement. And for a person going out: motion detection THEN opening detection.
Not sure that we can create this type of scenario (not in alexa in any case !)
Thank you for this feedback! That would explain a lot of things and it's finally quite logical! 🙂
Indeed, it is difficult for an opening sensor to determine whether it is an input or an output, the only one that can remain the PIR sensor. 😉
Hello,
For the door opening sensor, what autonomy can we expect with two AAA batteries?
it seems amazing the choice battery + wifi: /
Goods.
No idea, we have little perspective on this and it all depends, of course, on the trigger frequency and the quality of the signal. You should know that this type of sensor actually goes to sleep when not in use, so I would say 3 to 6 months, as for a Konyks Senso. 🙂
On a well-known envhere site, can't you find much cheaper?
Bonsoir
Can you inform me if Smart Life is compatible with the Neo sockets from Chacon? Thank you for your help
Well, after 1 day of testing, my verdict is: junk!
The detector reacts when it wants!
I have time to open the door and close it…. result 1 time out of 2 I have no feedback. Cool for safety!
I may be 2 meters from my router, it's the same. Sometimes it works with a latency of 3-4 seconds and more often than one minute forever!
I'll return it to Action!
Go your way, it's cheap but it's crap.
If I understood correctly, this is the door sensor, and I'm not particularly surprised. That's a bit of a concern with these battery-powered Wi-Fi devices, they don't always have great responsiveness, as they go to sleep. Moreover, it would seem that Smart Life has encountered some concerns in recent days. Jean-Christophe will probably update the test if it continues like this.
Personally, I took out equivalent Tuya sensors that I replaced with Aqara, not much more expensive in the end, but with almost zero latency.
Information taken, the problem unfortunately comes fromAlexa which no longer provides information. Amazon does not give any date as to how the problem will be resolved, but it should not be too late.
Yes but it seems to me that for the moment it is not compatible Alexa, no ?
You can look for these batteries on Amazon…… .. much cheaper than on the market 😉
Hello, I first bought light bulbs that I installed everywhere I put everything on the lsc app.
Now that I have the detectors if I understand correctly I have to start all over with smart life. Everything will therefore disappear from lsc. Do you guarantee that I have to do this and that it will work to pair the motion detectors, alarms and door sensors? Why don't we advise us directly smart life rather than lsc?
Hello,
You can still use the LSC app. If we advise Smart Life is because most of the users already use devices with it, and it is more convenient to have everything under one and the same application. Lots of brands have their own apps made by Tuya, but it's just brand branding, because all of them are the same as Tuya Smart /Smart Life. They are also the same servers.
It is not possible to pair a motion detector with a light bulb on the slc app as soon as we synchronize on smart life it disappears from lsc. So no need to keep lsc in my opinion unless you tell me that there are additional features on lsc but that does not seem to be the case. Smart more complete life. Thank you for your answers.
It is not possible to pair a motion detector with a light bulb on the slc app as soon as we synchronize on smart life it disappears from lsc. So no need to keep lsc in my opinion unless you tell me that there are additional features on lsc but that does not seem to be the case. Smart more complete life. Thank you for your answers.
Indeed, as said in the test, it is the same application ... Not necessarily completely up to date, so you might as well go through Smart Life.
Hello,
The motion detector does not appear in the scenarios, is this normal? I want to program operating hours, but as it is, the detector is active all the time ...
Thank you
Hi,
This must be done in the LSC application or Smart Life / Tuya. It's called scenarios and then they go up in Alexa.
Good night,
I tried well but the only scenario where I can use the motion detector with a time slot is to activate another connected equipment (lamp for example). I cannot find a way to activate the detector alone during a time profile… I tried with the application Smart Life and LSC
Quick question: can we receive a door opening notification when we are not connected to the wifi of the house? Is this door opening detector useful without the audible alarm or without a bulb?
Of course, the app is in the cloud, so you will receive notifications through the mobile network.
Hello I just bought the LSC bulbs smart connected but unable to configure them
Did I forget a manipulation or it just doesn't work
Can you help me
Sincerely, Karine
Try to configure them on Smart Life as explained in the test. It's the same platform, the application is just in the brand's colors ...
You can also refer to our tutorials:
- Install a bulb Smart Life: https://www.lesalexiens.com/tutoriels/tutoriel-installer-une-ampoule-avec-smart-life/
- Tutorial Smart Life for all connected objects: https://www.lesalexiens.com/tutoriels/tutoriel-comment-dompter-smart-life-le-couteau-suisse-de-la-maison-connectee/
A priori, no, Chacon uses proprietary protocols.
Hello I liked to take me door opening detectors but do you think that I can associate them with the alarm of the freebox delta ??? Thanks in advance.
Hello,
No, unfortunately this seems impossible since the security pack of the Freebox Delta is based on the Sigfox solution.
Have a good day
Hello,
thank you for this very informative article because it is true that if one sticks to the information given by action, one is badly crossed out….
I would like to put this system in a place out of my box. Is it possible to put an old laptop with wifi network sharing (with a small 3g subscription) and therefore pair the devices with each other? and therefore have a stand-alone alarm?
Thanks for your feedback
Philippe
Hello,
Thanks for your feedback! 🙂
Yes, it seems quite possible, if your old man smartphone allows connection sharing. Otherwise, you can also turn off, at the slightest blow I think, the Wi-Fi of your box with a mesh router such as Nova MW6 which we are talking about here (https://www.lesalexiens.com/labo-test-alexa/test-tenda-nova-mw6-le-wi-fi-mesh-a-petit-prix/). It suffices to mesh its housing with two or three modules. How far away would you like to place the alarm?
Hello, and thank you for the response. The problem is that the housing is isolated and the box, even with repeaters, will not be able to bring the signal; Otherwise, if I use the smartphone to share the connection, I have to be necessarily with 3g .. once configured, the devices cannot communicate with each other only with the wifi of the smartphone?
Hello,
I have just discovered these detectors (movement and door); they work wonderfully with me.
On the other hand, I want to integrate them into a home automation server (box or software) to carry out scenarios.
I searched in vain, however it seems that the detectors are Tuya compatible smart connect.
Is there a stable, reliable product that can support these LSC modules?
Thank you for the answer.
cordialement,
TB
Hello,
We recommend that you use the apps Smart Life or Tuya Smart, the LSC application Smart Connect is a visibly less updated and less complete fork. Normally, from this moment, no problem under Jeedom or Domoticz.
Good Sunday
Hello,
I bought a Wifi door detector that works with the app Smart Life this detector works perfectly, but I would like to know if it is possible to have an alert on my smatphone without being on the application when this detector is activated, thank you
cordially
Hello,
Normally yes you should find this setting in Smart Life. Moreover, it is possible to do this with Alexa or another voice assistant.
cordially
Hello, I have a light with 4 bulbs on it, I want Filament style LED bulbs and I saw this one https://www.action.com/fr-fr/p/lampe-led-intelligente-a-filament-lsc-smart-connect-14/
/ if I take the LSCs SMART CONNECT / could I manage them by voice via google home the group of 4 bulbs? I read that it was not necessarily possible with the wifi lamps grouped on the app Smart Life ..
Who has he already tested?
Regards,
Hello,
Sorry, we don't know GH at all, we specialize Alexa. Nevertheless, it is possible with it via Smart Life, so potentially with GH too.
Hello, I just installed the LSC door switch. this one works very well with an unbeatable price, an acceptable compactness, compared to my other contactors, more expensive which work as well. Only this contactor sends an alarm to my smartphone without mentioning the name I gave it. it displays: “Door” and not “bay window”. Have you noticed the same inconvenience? it's a bit of a shame… thank you for your feedback.
Bonsoir.
I just took the door sensor, works without worries.
My only question, can we deactivate it via scenario or other?
I would like to have notifications only in my absence.
Thank you in advance.
Hello,
To our knowledge, no, the Tuya platform still does not allow geolocation.
Have a good day
Hello, the only way to have notifications in your absence is to activate the "door open" and / or "door closed" notifications in the settings. And turn them off when you are at your home.
on the fact SmartLife, select the sensor, click on the toothed wheel, activate or deactivate the desired state, or the state of the battery.
Good use.
Hello, interesting your idea for a mail detector. The problem is that the detector does not support Alexa, it does not appear in the sensors. this sensor is only compatible with IFTTT. I thought I could do an Aplett but we can't program Alexa in the Then.
Unless I do it wrong… Any idea? have you actually seen the sensor in the devices Alexa? thanks in advance.
Hello,
At present, while waiting for it to rise in Alexa for a routine, the easiest way is to go through a scenario under SmartLife. Some Action sensors, such as door detectors, are reassembled in Alexa for several weeks. But not yet the motion detector.
OK; Thank you for the feedback. I will be satisfied with the alert message by SmartLife while waiting to be able to do a routine that will tell me by voice message that the mail has arrived. Thank you for your site and its useful indications. Thanks to you, I got equipped with a Tenda Nova MW6, and it's day and night in terms of WiFi ...
Good evening, is there a light that goes off on the LSC Connect motion sensor Smart please?
Hello,
What do you mean ? No, it doesn't have a light, but you can actually make it light bulbs from the Tuya ecosystem / Smart Life.
Hello, I would like to know if you were able to make it work and have it recognized to create scenarios. Because I have the same problem, it is well recognized by smartlife but not in the scenarios, so it is impossible to create routines with Alexa. I do not see how the tests in the article could be carried out !!
This is normal, the detector is used to trigger another device, what are you trying to do?
Hello. Very interesting article which convinced me. I am now fully equipped. The only downside would be for the siren which as indicated ... lacks vitality. So would you have a recommendation for a compatible product smartlife? Thank you
Hello,
Indeed, the siren is not very powerful, but I am afraid that this is also the case for the rest of the Tuya range… These are often white label products, identical but sold under different brands, and the choice is not very wide in the end. We have spotted this type of product that looks interesting and more powerful: http://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_dS6s8Y3 . But we cannot guarantee it for now, maybe we will test it in some time. 🙂
Have a good day
yes it is possible to set a time delay and then launch a task to turn off the light
Hello, have you managed to put an extinction time after detection and ignition?
Well no, not possible.
Hello,
I cannot pair my door detector with the siren. In scenario I have a blank page. Could you please help me.
Hello little stupid question for the Smart Siren, is it possible to change the Siren and put a ringtone chosen by us?
Thank you for your reply.
Hello, I have 4 motion detectors, 4 door opening detectors, GU10 bulbs, a siren and only the motion detectors do not go up in Alexa or Google home, while they are marked compatible on the packaging. Who to ask for a firmware update so that it finally goes back in Alexa & Google Home ?. Thank you
Hi,
It's LSC I guess, since you're commenting here?
I advise you to put everything under the application Smart Life of Tuya. You will have much more regular updates than via LSC Smart Connect. You should know that these are white label products, and it is better to avoid brand applications because they do not keep pace with the development of Smart Life.
Good evening 🙂
Hello did you see that there is a new motion detector that has arrived in the store? Ball shaped like some other brands via Tuya. Do you plan to test it? To find out if it is more responsive than this one.
Hello,
Yes, it has been discussed on our Facebook community, and apparently it would be better than the previous version.
We will look into it if we can find it.
Have a good day
I installed the detector Smart Door Sensor above and I wanted to carry out a routine that when the door opens it sends me a notification in the door open message with the trigger in the Door open routine ......
I take the test directly with alexa by reading the routine it works… ..
But if I open the door it doesn't do anything.
How does it….
Cdlt
with the application "google home" you create a room that you name "light" you assign each bulb to the room "light"
if you ask google home to turn on "light" and all the bulbs will be ordered at the same time
TuyaSmart is ahead of other apps.
One thing the article does not say is that if you are outside with the smartphone connected in 4G or 3G etc and not in wifi .., it is quite possible to also receive movement notifications in front of the sensor !!! This is not reported anywhere in the documentation !!
Yet it is essential and super useful and practical, because miles from home, you can be warned of the possible presence of a prowler in your home! And yes yes !!
Useful information to distribute because I was surprised to receive practical notifications while in 4G without wifi around me
By what means I ignore. But it works great for me!
We can also be alerted if we put the smartphone only in 4G or other G, outdoors and even several kms from home! Super practical and information not documented in the user manual!
Uh, if it is not specified, it is obvious… It is a cloud solution, whether you are in adsl, vdsl, fiber or 4G, you can of course access your equipment! 🙂
And yes, long live the cloud, available whatever the techno and wherever you are! ; p
Hello. Following your article, I just bought the motion detector to put in a mailbox. The detector works perfectly and the notifications on the smartphone are sent each time. On the other hand, the routines under Alexa do not work and I read in the comments a problem with the skill which does not send the information. I found a solution that works perfectly, if that helps 🙂 I had another sensor (door opening detector) that worked with Konyks. So I tested the Konyks Skill and the LSCs are perfectly detected. The routines work without any problems and Alexa speaks on every detection. Good evening to all.
Thanks for the tip Joel, it should help more than one! 🙂
Hello!
I just bought some LSC products and it looks pretty good to me! But I would like to know if it was possible to put a timer on a socket that would be triggered by the sensor. So that, for example, a hallway light doesn't stay on all day and I don't have to turn it off manually.
Thank you in advance !
Hi,
Not bad for the price indeed! It's possible to create automations in the app, so it's likely, but we haven't tested that setup yet. We are keeping it aside for a future Tuya test and will check this point.
Sorry not to be able to inform you more for the moment,
Good evening 🙂
Hello,
Small question concerning object detection (in your example, detection of a letter slipped into the slot of a letterbox). How is it possible to detect this letter (or object) even though the detector is "an infrared system that will just check if something in front of the sensor does not have the same thermal signature as the atmosphere"?
Thank you
Anthony
Hello, I just bought a detector plus 2 bulbs. I have everything set so that the bulbs come on when someone comes up the stairs but they never go out. I do not know how to do .
Can you explain the procedure to me please?
Thank you
Bonjour David,
It is necessary to create an automation with the trigger, a delay, then an extinction after the desired time.
Have a good weekend 🙂
Thank you for your answer but no timeout proposal ... I have the smart pir sensor.
It is in the app that you have to put a time delay ...
In automation, set a time delay then turn off the bulbs….
Yes I searched everywhere but not found ..
Hello, action has just extended the range, notably with a video doorbell, indoor and outdoor camera.
Is a trial planned?
Can we watch the videos on an echo show?
thank you for your comeback
Hello,
Unfortunately, this device is not compatible with Alexa, so we have no plans to talk about it for the moment because its interest seems a little limited for the time being.
Have a good day
Hello / good evening, I just bought lsc connected products from action in order to "start in dominique without breaking the bank!" With the proprietary lsc application, it works without problem, but I wanted to use tuya, the more advanced application, but impossible to pair the devices!, And I cannot find anywhere on the net the voice commands necessary for the synchronization of the two applications !, does anyone have any ideas for solutions ?, thank you, Luc
Hello,
You obviously have to activate the skill or the Tuya add-on for that, the magic does not work alone. You will find this synchronization possibility in the Tuya application. Also, note that you must dissociate your devices from LSC before installing on Tuya. 😉