In line with our tests on the connected switches that you are fond of, the Alexians have found a switch that is on fire, the Lora Tap. Why this choice ? Because it is a product that is often promoted on Amazon and we wanted to test it. If it is possible to have a quality product for less than 18 € in promotion, we go for it!
LoraTap's unique model is FR model (it seems), CE and FCC standards (US). In theory, it seems very close to Teekar switches, which are good products: close / open / pause modes, works with Smart Life, tactile and almost its twin brother at the visual level… Let's see together if this is really the case.
LoraTap: sleek and design… already seen
The switch is delivered in a box reminiscent of handmade : it is brown, it is small, it is ugly, the stickers are not really well stuck and… it is scribbled with a ballpoint pen: FR has been added and an item has been manually deleted. Good… We leave with a serious doubt, but we have already seen fairly basic packaging with good products. However, as a consumer, we have doubts about the quality. But do not let ourselves be influenced ...
What do we find in it? The switch, four screws, a small screwdriver, a Wago 3 inputs, a piece of blue wire and a quick installation guide in French.
Several good surprises:
- Le guide is really Very full et in good french. Nothing to say about it, it explains the connection, the pairing with Smart Life ...
- Le small screwdriver, even if basic quality is a nice little gesture,
- Le Wago and the son, it can always help. But we can not help but think: why put it?
Design level, we are on a beautiful product but almost identical to the other connected switches. The front of the switch is in 4mm tempered glass with a white background, three pressure zones. It's refined, it's sober, it's pretty but it really feels White mark : no identification, no enhancement. The three buttons are open / pause / close the curtains. The dimensions are fairly standard for the front (8,6 cm per side) and a depth of 2,5 cm for the transplanting system. Once set up and well glued to the wall, count a small centimeter of thickness. So identical to the others.
The thread transplanting block is completely standard size and adapts without any problem to the placo boxes of the French market. A little more, once the front has been removed, there are not two holes on the sides of the internal face, but 4 holes allowing it to be screwed into the flush-mounting box without any problem on all types of boxes and in any meaning.
At the level of technical characteristics, basic: it works on 100-240V at 50/60 Hz, so no problem. Rated power of 600 W, A 10, maximum power of 2400W and power consumption in 0,5W standby. At the connection level 2.4 GHz Wi-Fi only, IEEE802.11b / g / n. So in principle, it is suitable for most installations.
LoraTap: An installation that fires all the woods
Regarding the installation, the diagram is relatively simple and identical to what we have for the other switches, just a few things ready. But we see some rather annoying details from the start ... We will not come back to the spring system which can eventually generate random pulses and open and close the shutters without special requests. The most annoying is the location to come and put the neutrals ...
As you can see, it is not at the same distance as for phases and returns which are about 0,5 cm. There, we are at a depth of more than 1 cm to come and put the neutrals. It is not possible, in fact, to put only one wire and not two unlike the instructions ... So immediately, we better understand the why of the Wago and the piece of wire. But the other point is that this wire is precisely stripped over more than 1 centimeter and relatively flexible ... Another fact, once the cover has been removed, the electronic system seems much more summary than what we find on brands already tested. So even if the facade looks identical to other brands, the connection system, on-board electronics and others are different… And doesn't really inspire confidence.
Either… We will therefore use the Wago and the wire because they must be used for that, but the instructions do not mention it. First problem, where to place this Wago which is quite bulky and which will take up space in the block? We'll think about that later ... Or not. But let's make the connections. This is good because the colors are noted on the connection block. All the threads are put on well, except the neutral, very malleable and it is almost impossible to know if it is too much or not enough ... After fixing, it holds, so it must be enough.
Once this is done, it is necessary to put the current back on and to test… and there, no glow on the switch. Either… Maybe there isn't? Let's do a test by trying to press the spring to raise the shutter and ... BAAAM! A noise of explosion, a shower of fire and the pellets which jump ... You can see the result in the photos below… But what happened?
Several possibilities, but the main problem comes from the neutral connection system. It is absolutely abnormal not to have almost direct access to the screws when inserting the wires. From there it is necessary to use a wire (provided in this case) and haphazardly screw in luck.
If it is not inserted enough, it will be able to move and make electric arcs and potentially short circuits and sparks, hence a risk.
If it is pushed too far in, it will potentially be able to touch the circuits and other welds, cause a short circuit and therefore sparks, destruction of certain elements and the consequences that go with it.
If you look closely, unlike the other montages, neutral and phase arrivals are side by side while in general, they are as far apart as possible. It is not impossible that by pushing the neutral wire too far, it will touch the phase and… badaboum.
The other possibility is the nature of the wire supplied : too flexible and thus potentially unable to withstand the intensity arriving and leaving the neutral wires, and in particular that of the circuit. To this is added too much stripping (we do not exceed 5 mm). It is also possible to be on a mixture of two problems ... But looking at the photo of the piece of wire provided, it is clear that the problem comes from this area. It is also possible that it is simply defective, but looking on the net, This is not an isolated case.
As much to say to you that the test stopped here. But wait, we can hear you from here! “Yes, you have tested a cheap product that is not NF! And if it is, it is false CE !! You have to be careful, it's well done !!! ".
So let's be clear, most of the people saying these trivialities don't know what NF or CE standards, buy without looking, and would be surprised to go around their installation and see what is not NF… The first point that is always important to remember.
Another thing, the aim of the Alexians tests is to put yourself in the consumer's shoes everyday, buying online, not having precise technical knowledge and installing the products as stipulated in the instructions. It would have been possible to put a more rigid cable, less stripped, but who would have done it in reality? We therefore test as foreseen by the manufacturer using what is provided, to be representative of the average handyman.
What does this test tell us:
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- Take precautions: cut the electrical circuit, do not reassemble what you have just installed without testing it first (imagine if this problem occurs once everything has been put back in place, in the wall),
- We do not strip the threads thoughtlessly and we use quality yarn,
- If a material appears to you too low quality, do not take a risk,
- Note that most connected products are made in China, even if sold by French companies, so don't vilify the origin. What will make the difference are the quality of the materials, the monitoring of the factories, the seriousness of the client… And the quality is evident. Do not necessarily take the first price but taking the most expensive is sometimes of little interest.
In the end, this connected switch for roller shutters is a product that we can qualify as dangerous. Problem during assembly? It was followed to the letter with the material provided. Problem with the materials? Those supplied were used. A manufacturing defect? Even if it is, it is not acceptable. The rating is 0/10. Contacted beforehand by the Alexians, LoraTap had announced to work on a new generation and had not wanted to make a partnership with us to test this one… Strange…
To have fitted 3 of these switches last weekend, I confirm that the installation is a bit tricky because of the deep neutral terminal block and the screw hole a bit tight. That said in terms of quality, we can find in France products of lower quality in DIY stores which I will not mention the name!
The packaging is light but clean. Personally, I am against over-packaging and that is fine with me.
The instructions are simple, in French and the materials are well made and well machined (I may have been lucky, either!).
I always pay close attention to the electrical assemblies and I checked the contact of the terminal blocks with a multimeter (essential).
I used the straps provided even though they were indeed small in diameter. On the other hand I used a quality domino to fix the neutral going towards the shutter (it of greater diameter).
The pairing was done without problem and the application Smart Home is simple, intuitive and works well with Google Home and Alexa.
The only small flaws would be the use of the words "switch on" and "Switch off" instead of "Open" and "Close", and indeed the resistive surface of the buttons a little cheap (I had an unexpected closing due to a cat!).
But for the price I'm pretty happy with my purchase. However, I am waiting to see the use over a few months before putting a note!
One last thing: on your montage photo we see that you have reversed the phase (red) and the L1 output…. hence the fireworks 🙂
Thank you for this feedback. As said in the article, the test was performed with the material provided by the manufacturer and following the instructions in the package insert. Indeed, the origin or the price of the product is not to be questioned. There is some very bad in French supermarkets as you say. However, having tested quite a few of them is not the best. And it's not my first hookup either, so phase inversion with phase feedback, no. Besides, there is no red wire on my engine. You must see a brown (which you must have taken for red), a brown and a blue. Brown and brown are my returns and blue is neutral. The black you see is my phrase. They have also been tested, it is not the first time that I have touched the electricity. Besides, I used the same connection to install another switch just after… which did not burn out. From where in my opinion either a defective, or the fact of having too insert the neutral wire in the stud which is absolutely not accessible. A little too much "borderline" stuff on this switch. There are some in the same price range which are very good but again, we can not be immune to a fault. On the other hand, vilifying the made in China is not the goal of this article because there are very good products.
Keep us posted on the duration over time of your switches as they sometimes seem to age badly. I think it comes from the spring system. But again, this only concerns a few products ...
Hi
We can clearly see from the photos that you made a mistake in editing. You feed your motor with two phases, a red direct phase so yes boom when you have pressed 2 phases 110v and you are lucky not to have burned it. The two black wires supply the motor operating directions.
Cdlt
Hello,
Unfortunately no, no error, moreover another switch replaced it with exactly the assembly… And no problem.
In addition, we did not specify it, but the brand withdrew this model from the market and replaced it with another. 😉
Good weekend
My roller shutter switch is offline yet it works fine when opening but when closing it does not work I have an offline error when closing the program at dusk
What to do
Try to redo the automation, sometimes they no longer work without explanation. 🙁
Hello,
Can three shutters be placed on a single Etersky switch?
Hello,
Nothing prevents it if the connection is adequate. However, you will not be able to control them individually.